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B1ackwater
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 Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:18 am Post subject: Re: Justices Rule for Individual Gun Rights |
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:18:10 GMT, "RM v2.0" <Blah@spam.sucks> wrote:
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Not in the internet age where all info is 'paperless' ... and,
just coincidentally, tracable :-)
Not necessarily. Free WIFI, public libraries, lots of ways to stay anonymous
on the Net.
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But the library probably has time:date stamped security cameras.
If the spooks really want to find you, they'll get the local
authorities to rush to the site and demand the tapes. Being a
public institution, I doubt they'd have a choice but to hand
them over.
As for net-based 'anonymizers' ... whatta you bet the spooks
already have 'em wired to siphon-off original IP and MAC
addresses and such at the push of a remote button ? Even if
it's a chain of onion anonymizers they'd be able to put the
chain back together. Or maybe the spooks secretly OWN the
things ... knowing that the kind of people they'd be looking
for will use 'em .....
Internet cafes and such ? Again, beware the ubiquitous security
cameras. Oh yea, every internet interface has a unique hardware
MAC address ... a real bitch to fabricate and send phony numbers.
The people who sold you the laptop can tell 'em what numbers go
with what machine - and who it was sold to. Even if you stole
it or bought it at a garage sale, they'll have a place to start
their search.
I suppose you can break into the neighbors house ... but they
may have their own cameras, or there may be govt one hidden in
the streetlight outside ... 'traffic control' or 'security'.
Oh, I hope the car you drove doesn't have 'OnStar' to track
your every turn 
Finally there's the ultimate hard truth - even if it's POSSIBLE
to get away with it ... 99.99(999?) percent of the people won't
know HOW or will be AFRAID to try. Security States don't have
to be PERFECT in order to achieve their aims. Just keep almost
all of the people from reading/writing/disseminating and the rest
terrified of being caught ... that's good enough for Big Bro.
Control is maintained.
States have VAST resources - financial, authoritarian, human-
resource. If they WANT to silence/identify/nail someone they
almost certainly CAN. All they need are a few excuses to USE
those resources. Tomorrow, maybe they won't even need any
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tankfixer
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:54 am Post subject: Re: Justices Rule for Individual Gun Rights |
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In article <4868e3af.10806453@news.east.earthlink.net>, bw@barrk.net
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It may also be possible to make USING a gun, even in
self-defense, a crime of some sort - even if it's just
in violation of a "discharging a firearm inside the
city limits' sort of crime - to harass and intimidate
the common Joe.
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Unlikely since the descion found that self defense is protected.
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"Oh Norman, listen! The loons are calling!"
- Katherine Hepburn, "On Golden Pond" |
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B1ackwater
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:45 pm Post subject: Re: Justices Rule for Individual Gun Rights |
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:28:01 -0700 (PDT), Hiccum Blurpaedius
<hiccum@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Jun 26, 2:01=A0pm, b...@barrk.net (B1ackwater) wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:55:44 -0400, "leonard7...@primus.ca"
leonard7...@primus.ca> wrote:
Justices Rule for Individual Gun Rights
=A0 =A0Yea, a lousy 5-4 decision from people who are supposed
=A0 =A0to be experts on "original intent". Shoulda been 9-0.
=A0 =A0Maybe "W" will have the opportunity to get one more
=A0 =A0'liberal' outta there before January .....
I half agree with you here. The founding fathers were liberals-
everyone ought to liberally have guns.
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But todays "liberals" are anything BUT. |
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B1ackwater
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: Justices Rule for Individual Gun Rights |
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:54:34 -0700, tankfixer
<paul.carrier@gmail.comm> wrote:
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In article <4868e3af.10806453@news.east.earthlink.net>, bw@barrk.net
says...
It may also be possible to make USING a gun, even in
self-defense, a crime of some sort - even if it's just
in violation of a "discharging a firearm inside the
city limits' sort of crime - to harass and intimidate
the common Joe.
Unlikely since the descion found that self defense is protected.
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They wouldn't charge you with the "defense" per-se ... just
the nuts and bolts of how you *accomplished* it. |
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Gray Ghost
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:37 pm Post subject: Re: Justices Rule for Individual Gun Rights |
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Hiccum Blurpaedius <hiccum@gmail.com> wrote in news:65c1bc74-915e-4e96-b0e3-
d6b5645cf5ec@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
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Like George Bush senior told George Bush Junior after he kidnapped me,
" If he had a gun you would be dead".
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This ought to be good. Were you a suspected terrorist? Grabbed under the
Patriot Act?
Or was this more personal?
Frank |
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Hiccum Blurpaedius
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:54 am Post subject: Re: Justices Rule for Individual Gun Rights |
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On Jul 3, 2:01 am, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.comm> wrote:
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In article <486a18de.4364...@news.east.earthlink.net>, b...@barrk.net
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:54:34 -0700, tankfixer
paul.carr...@gmail.comm> wrote:
In article <4868e3af.10806...@news.east.earthlink.net>, b...@barrk.net
says...
It may also be possible to make USING a gun, even in
self-defense, a crime of some sort - even if it's just
in violation of a "discharging a firearm inside the
city limits' sort of crime - to harass and intimidate
the common Joe.
Unlikely since the descion found that self defense is protected.
They wouldn't charge you with the "defense" per-se ... just
the nuts and bolts of how you *accomplished* it. :-)
I think such a law could be easily challanged and overturned.
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"Oh Norman, listen! The loons are calling!"
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tankfixer
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: Re: Justices Rule for Individual Gun Rights |
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In article <486a18de.4364828@news.east.earthlink.net>, bw@barrk.net
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:54:34 -0700, tankfixer
paul.carrier@gmail.comm> wrote:
In article <4868e3af.10806453@news.east.earthlink.net>, bw@barrk.net
says...
It may also be possible to make USING a gun, even in
self-defense, a crime of some sort - even if it's just
in violation of a "discharging a firearm inside the
city limits' sort of crime - to harass and intimidate
the common Joe.
Unlikely since the descion found that self defense is protected.
They wouldn't charge you with the "defense" per-se ... just
the nuts and bolts of how you *accomplished* it.
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I think such a law could be easily challanged and overturned.
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"Oh Norman, listen! The loons are calling!"
- Katherine Hepburn, "On Golden Pond" |
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