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 Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject: Official Figures Out Confirming Global Cooling Continues |
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Last week, I posted the unofficial figures showing that the year and a
half long global cooling cycle continued in June. The official
figures are out.
Ok. The Global Temperature drop on land and ocean was present but
small in comparison to the century average, a drop of .0127 degrees C
from June of 2007.
ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/anomalies/monthly.land_and_ocean.90S.90N.df_1901-2000mean.dat
However, as I presented last week, it dropped .26 degrees from the 30
year average of more recent times at this site...
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt
So, the global temperature dropped, again. In the last year, 11 of
the past 12 months have been lower than the same month in the prior
year. However, that is just talking about the land and sea
temperature drop. Let's talk about the atmosphere, since that is
where the ozone effect is supposed to be happening.
According to this page..
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2008/jun/global.html#temp
The month of June was the 9th or 13th coolest June in the Lower
Troposphere (depending on whether you use UAH or RSS data).
It was the 3rd or 8th coolest June on record in the Mid Troposphere
(UAH or RSS).
Both UAH and RSS agree it was the 5th coolest June on record in the
Stratosphere.
Many blame the recent temperature data to a reduction in solar flares,
as if that justifies Global Warming. Indeed, I think it proves the
reverse. If solar flare reduction caused this temperature drop, how
do we know it wasn't increased solar flare activity that caused PAST
global temperature increases. Indeed, if the sun is flaring less,
you'd think we'd be happy to have a higher temperature to insulate us
and removing that insulation could hurt us in the long run...assuming
there is ANY connection to temperatures from pollution, considering
that there has been this year and a half long temperature drop without
ANY reduction in worldwide air pollution.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com |
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Cary Kittrell
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:47 pm Post subject: Re: Official Figures Out Confirming Global Cooling Continues |
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In article <59070c31-041b-43b7-89a8-28ed21e15c06@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> The_Carpathia <writingken@yahoo.com> writes:
Nope. The average in this table for June over the last 30 years was +.281
degrees Celsius -- add them up yourself. Therefore, this June dropped 0.02 degrees
Celsius from that 30-year average.
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So, the global temperature dropped, again. In the last year, 11 of
the past 12 months have been lower than the same month in the prior
year.
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Terrific. We've cooled down a bit from the sixth and seventh
hottest years on record:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article3045976.ece
Tell me, if your thermostat jams, sending your house up to
100 degrees -- but then you jiggle it a bit, and the temperature
in your house drops to 95, do you declare "problem fixed"?
Let me repeat: over the past 12 months we've dropped back
a bit from the sixth and seventh hottest years ever recorded.
Whoopee.
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However, that is just talking about the land and sea
temperature drop. Let's talk about the atmosphere, since that is
where the ozone effect is supposed to be happening.
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Why? The ozone hole and global warming are two separate concerns.
One is exacerbated by chlorofluorocarbons, and one is exacerbated
by greenhouse gases.
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According to this page..
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2008/jun/global.html#temp
The month of June was the 9th or 13th coolest June in the Lower
Troposphere (depending on whether you use UAH or RSS data).
It was the 3rd or 8th coolest June on record in the Mid Troposphere
(UAH or RSS).
Both UAH and RSS agree it was the 5th coolest June on record in the
Stratosphere.
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Good for it. However, ozone breakdown is not caused by
ambient temperature, it is caused by ultraviolet radiation
and catalyzed by free radicals.
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Many blame the recent temperature data to a reduction in solar flares,
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Total irradience, not just solar flares.
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as if that justifies Global Warming. Indeed, I think it proves the
reverse. If solar flare reduction caused this temperature drop, how
do we know it wasn't increased solar flare activity that caused PAST
global temperature increases.
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Good question. Both sets of data are easily available. Why
don't you make up a nice graph to support your contention?
By the way, when you get to work on this, don't overlook the
thermal inerta provided by the oceans. It'll introduce
a phase lag in any effect you're looking for, OK?
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Indeed, if the sun is flaring less,
you'd think we'd be happy to have a higher temperature to insulate us
and removing that insulation could hurt us in the long run...assuming
there is ANY connection to temperatures from pollution, considering
that there has been this year and a half long temperature drop without
ANY reduction in worldwide air pollution.
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Great, a slight respite from the sixth and seventh hottest years
ever seen. I guess "cooling" is relative, isn't it?
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The_Carpathia
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: Official Figures Out Confirming Global Cooling Continues |
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On Jul 17, 11:47 am, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
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In article <59070c31-041b-43b7-89a8-28ed21e15...@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups..com> The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> writes:
Last week, I posted the unofficial figures showing that the year and a
half long global cooling cycle continued in June. The official
figures are out.
Ok. The Global Temperature drop on land and ocean was present but
small in comparison to the century average, a drop of .0127 degrees C
from June of 2007.
ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/anomalies/monthly.land_and_ocean.90S...
However, as I presented last week, it dropped .26 degrees from the 30
year average of more recent times at this site...
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt
Nope. The average in this table for June over the last 30 years was +.281
degrees Celsius -- add them up yourself. Therefore, this June dropped 0.02 degrees
Celsius from that 30-year average.
So, the global temperature dropped, again. In the last year, 11 of
the past 12 months have been lower than the same month in the prior
year.
Terrific. We've cooled down a bit from the sixth and seventh
hottest years on record:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article3045976.ece
Tell me, if your thermostat jams, sending your house up to
100 degrees -- but then you jiggle it a bit, and the temperature
in your house drops to 95, do you declare "problem fixed"?
Let me repeat: over the past 12 months we've dropped back
a bit from the sixth and seventh hottest years ever recorded.
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...without ANY reduction in global air pollution....giving rise to
doubt of the truth of Global Warming. Thanks for confirming my
thesis.
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According to this page..
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2008/jun/global.html#temp
The month of June was the 9th or 13th coolest June in the Lower
Troposphere (depending on whether you use UAH or RSS data).
It was the 3rd or 8th coolest June on record in the Mid Troposphere
(UAH or RSS).
Both UAH and RSS agree it was the 5th coolest June on record in the
Stratosphere.
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Cary Kittrell
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: Official Figures Out Confirming Global Cooling Continues |
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In article <bfb7fee8-2a81-4929-a788-d36f3305eb3c@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> The_Carpathia <writingken@yahoo.com> writes:
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On Jul 17, 11:47=A0am, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <59070c31-041b-43b7-89a8-28ed21e15...@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups=
.com> The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> writes:
Last week, I posted the unofficial figures showing that the year and a
half long global cooling cycle continued in June. =A0The official
figures are out.
Ok. =A0The Global Temperature drop on land and ocean was present but
small in comparison to the century average, a drop of .0127 degrees C
from June of 2007.
ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/anomalies/monthly.land_and_ocean.90S...
However, as I presented last week, it dropped .26 degrees from the 30
year average of more recent times at this site...
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt
Nope. =A0The average in this table for June over the last 30 years was +.=
281
degrees Celsius -- add them up yourself. =A0Therefore, this June dropped =
0.02 degrees
Celsius from that 30-year average.
So, the global temperature dropped, again. =A0In the last year, 11 of
the past 12 months have been lower than the same month in the prior
year. =A0
Terrific. =A0We've cooled down a bit from the sixth and seventh
hottest years on record:
=A0 =A0http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article3045976.e=
ce
Tell me, if your thermostat jams, sending your house up to
100 degrees -- but then you jiggle it a bit, and the temperature
in your house drops to 95, do you declare "problem fixed"?
Let me repeat: over the past 12 months we've dropped back
a bit from the sixth and seventh hottest years ever recorded.
=2E..without ANY reduction in global air pollution....giving rise to
doubt of the truth of Global Warming. Thanks for confirming my
thesis.
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Lessee, I do believe this is what?... the third time or the
fourth time I've asked you this: do you really believe
"global warming" means "every year, without fail, will
be hotter than the previous year"?
-- cary
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According to this page..
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2008/jun/global.html#temp
The month of June was the 9th or 13th coolest June in the Lower
Troposphere (depending on whether you use UAH or RSS data).
It was the 3rd or 8th coolest June on record in the Mid Troposphere
(UAH or RSS).
Both UAH and RSS agree it was the 5th coolest June on record in the
Stratosphere.
Kenneth Clifton
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Wide Eyed in Wonder
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:29 pm Post subject: Re: Official Figures Out Confirming Global Cooling Continues |
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On Jul 17, 12:11 pm, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
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In article <bfb7fee8-2a81-4929-a788-d36f3305e...@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups..com> The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> writes:
On Jul 17, 11:47=A0am, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <59070c31-041b-43b7-89a8-28ed21e15...@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups> > .com> The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> writes:
Last week, I posted the unofficial figures showing that the year and a
half long global cooling cycle continued in June. =A0The official
figures are out.
Ok. =A0The Global Temperature drop on land and ocean was present but
small in comparison to the century average, a drop of .0127 degrees C
from June of 2007.
ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/anomalies/monthly.land_and_ocean.90S...
However, as I presented last week, it dropped .26 degrees from the 30
year average of more recent times at this site...
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt
Nope. =A0The average in this table for June over the last 30 years was +.> > 281
degrees Celsius -- add them up yourself. =A0Therefore, this June dropped > > 0.02 degrees
Celsius from that 30-year average.
So, the global temperature dropped, again. =A0In the last year, 11 of
the past 12 months have been lower than the same month in the prior
year. =A0
Terrific. =A0We've cooled down a bit from the sixth and seventh
hottest years on record:
=A0 =A0http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article3045976.e> > ce
Tell me, if your thermostat jams, sending your house up to
100 degrees -- but then you jiggle it a bit, and the temperature
in your house drops to 95, do you declare "problem fixed"?
Let me repeat: over the past 12 months we've dropped back
a bit from the sixth and seventh hottest years ever recorded.
=2E..without ANY reduction in global air pollution....giving rise to
doubt of the truth of Global Warming. Thanks for confirming my
thesis.
Lessee, I do believe this is what?... the third time or the
fourth time I've asked you this: do you really believe
"global warming" means "every year, without fail, will
be hotter than the previous year"?
-- cary
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With BBC predicting this cooling period will last 10+ years (see one
of my prior posts on it) and the cooling taking place without any
regard to pollution levels (no correlation), it is irrelevant.
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According to this page..
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2008/jun/global.html#temp
The month of June was the 9th or 13th coolest June in the Lower
Troposphere (depending on whether you use UAH or RSS data).
It was the 3rd or 8th coolest June on record in the Mid Troposphere
(UAH or RSS).
Both UAH and RSS agree it was the 5th coolest June on record in the
Stratosphere.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
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Cary Kittrell
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:51 pm Post subject: Re: Official Figures Out Confirming Global Cooling Continues |
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In article <562efec6-742b-4725-8f2b-72260e82e39e@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Wide Eyed in Wonder <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:
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On Jul 17, 12:11=A0pm, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <bfb7fee8-2a81-4929-a788-d36f3305e...@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups=
.com> The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> writes:
On Jul 17, 11:47=3DA0am, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrot=
e:
In article <59070c31-041b-43b7-89a8-28ed21e15...@c65g2000hsa.googlegr=
oups=3D
.com> The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> writes:
Last week, I posted the unofficial figures showing that the year an=
d a
half long global cooling cycle continued in June. =3DA0The official
figures are out.
Ok. =3DA0The Global Temperature drop on land and ocean was present =
but
small in comparison to the century average, a drop of .0127 degrees=
C
from June of 2007.
ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/anomalies/monthly.land_and_ocean.90=
S...
However, as I presented last week, it dropped .26 degrees from the =
30
year average of more recent times at this site...
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt
Nope. =3DA0The average in this table for June over the last 30 years =
was +.=3D
281
degrees Celsius -- add them up yourself. =3DA0Therefore, this June dr=
opped =3D
0.02 degrees
Celsius from that 30-year average.
So, the global temperature dropped, again. =3DA0In the last year, 1=
1 of
the past 12 months have been lower than the same month in the prior
year. =3DA0
Terrific. =3DA0We've cooled down a bit from the sixth and seventh
hottest years on record:
=3DA0 =3DA0http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article3=
045976.e=3D
ce
Tell me, if your thermostat jams, sending your house up to
100 degrees -- but then you jiggle it a bit, and the temperature
in your house drops to 95, do you declare "problem fixed"?
Let me repeat: over the past 12 months we've dropped back
a bit from the sixth and seventh hottest years ever recorded.
=3D2E..without ANY reduction in global air pollution....giving rise to
doubt of the truth of Global Warming. =A0Thanks for confirming my
thesis.
Lessee, I do believe this is what?... the third time or the
fourth time I've asked you this: do you really believe
"global warming" means "every year, without fail, will
be hotter than the previous year"?
-- cary
With BBC predicting this cooling period will last 10+ years (see one
of my prior posts on it)
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Kindly re-post that link; I really don't want to have to
dig through the dozens of posts you've made on this topic:
(incidentally, I really hope you didn't mean that the BBC
does science)
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and the cooling taking place without any
regard to pollution levels (no correlation), it is irrelevant.
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It might well be, if the trend continues over a prolonged
period of time.
That said, I would still very much appreciate an answer to
my question: do you really believe "global warming" means
"every year, without fail, will be hotter than the previous year"?
-- cary
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According to this page..
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2008/jun/global.html#te=
mp
The month of June was the 9th or 13th coolest June in the Lower
Troposphere (depending on whether you use UAH or RSS data).
It was the 3rd or 8th coolest June on record in the Mid Troposphere
(UAH or RSS).
Both UAH and RSS agree it was the 5th coolest June on record in the
Stratosphere.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
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Phisher KIng
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:26 pm Post subject: Re: Official Figures Out Confirming Global Cooling Continues |
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cary@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote in
news:g5nt2v$6gu$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu:
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In article
59070c31-041b-43b7-89a8-28ed21e15c06@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com
The_Carpathia <writingken@yahoo.com> writes:
Last week, I posted the unofficial figures showing that the year and
a half long global cooling cycle continued in June. The official
figures are out.
Ok. The Global Temperature drop on land and ocean was present but
small in comparison to the century average, a drop of .0127 degrees C
from June of 2007.
ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/anomalies/monthly.land_and_ocean.90S.
90N.df_1901-2000mean.dat
However, as I presented last week, it dropped .26 degrees from the 30
year average of more recent times at this site...
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt
Nope. The average in this table for June over the last 30 years was
+.281 degrees Celsius -- add them up yourself. Therefore, this June
dropped 0.02 degrees Celsius from that 30-year average.
So, the global temperature dropped, again. In the last year, 11 of
the past 12 months have been lower than the same month in the prior
year.
Terrific. We've cooled down a bit from the sixth and seventh
hottest years on record:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article3045976.ec
e
Tell me, if your thermostat jams, sending your house up to
100 degrees -- but then you jiggle it a bit, and the temperature
in your house drops to 95, do you declare "problem fixed"?
Let me repeat: over the past 12 months we've dropped back
a bit from the sixth and seventh hottest years ever recorded.
Whoopee.
However, that is just talking about the land and sea
temperature drop. Let's talk about the atmosphere, since that is
where the ozone effect is supposed to be happening.
Why? The ozone hole and global warming are two separate concerns.
One is exacerbated by chlorofluorocarbons, and one is exacerbated
by greenhouse gases.
According to this page..
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2008/jun/global.html#temp
The month of June was the 9th or 13th coolest June in the Lower
Troposphere (depending on whether you use UAH or RSS data).
It was the 3rd or 8th coolest June on record in the Mid Troposphere
(UAH or RSS).
Both UAH and RSS agree it was the 5th coolest June on record in the
Stratosphere.
Good for it. However, ozone breakdown is not caused by
ambient temperature, it is caused by ultraviolet radiation
and catalyzed by free radicals.
Many blame the recent temperature data to a reduction in solar
flares,
Total irradience, not just solar flares.
as if that justifies Global Warming. Indeed, I think it proves the
reverse. If solar flare reduction caused this temperature drop, how
do we know it wasn't increased solar flare activity that caused PAST
global temperature increases.
Good question. Both sets of data are easily available. Why
don't you make up a nice graph to support your contention?
By the way, when you get to work on this, don't overlook the
thermal inerta provided by the oceans. It'll introduce
a phase lag in any effect you're looking for, OK?
Indeed, if the sun is flaring less,
you'd think we'd be happy to have a higher temperature to insulate us
and removing that insulation could hurt us in the long run...assuming
there is ANY connection to temperatures from pollution, considering
that there has been this year and a half long temperature drop
without ANY reduction in worldwide air pollution.
Great, a slight respite from the sixth and seventh hottest years
ever seen. I guess "cooling" is relative, isn't it?
-- cary
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Excellent repy. I'm looking forward to his graph when he completes his
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:10 am Post subject: Re: Official Figures Out Confirming Global Cooling Continues |
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The_Carpathia <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote:
That's odd. I read that table as saying that the recent number is
higher than ANY June prior to 1987. It may be lower than in the last
few years, but it is still well above average. The May number was
higher than ANY May prior to 1998.
Hint, for even TEMPORARY cooling the number would have to be negative.
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So, the global temperature dropped, again. In the last year, 11 of
the past 12 months have been lower than the same month in the prior
year.
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Meaningless. There has not been a single month with temperatures
below the 1950-1980 average since 1992. The average for the year is
about the same as 1999-2000, which can clear be seen in retrospect was
NOT "global cooling".
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However, that is just talking about the land and sea
temperature drop.
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By contrast, here is what THEY say in the June report
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2008/jun/jun08.html
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Global Highlights
The combined global land and ocean surface temperature for June 2008
was 60.8°F (16.0°C), which is 0.9°F (0.5°C) above the 20th century
mean of 59.9°F (15.5°C).
Separately, the global land surface temperature was 57.2°F (14.0°C),
which is 1.3°F (0.7°C) above the 20th century mean of 55.9°F
(13.3°C).
The global ocean surface temperature was 62.2°F (16.8°C), which is
0.7°F (0.4°C) above the 20th century mean of 61.5°F (16.4°C).
For the January - June period, the combined global land and ocean
surface temperature was 57.1°F (13.9°C), which is 0.8°F (0.4°C) about
the 20th century mean of 56.3°F (13.5°C
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They don't seem to be calling it any sort of "drop". The "drop" is
your ignorant attempt to spin data that you apparently do not
understand.
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Let's talk about the atmosphere, since that is
where the ozone effect is supposed to be happening.
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The ozone effect is an entirely different phenomenon besides global
warming.
June was the 8th warmest year on record for global land-ocean
temperature
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Many blame the recent temperature data to a reduction in solar flares,
as if that justifies Global Warming.
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Nothing "justifies" Global Warming.
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Indeed, I think it proves the reverse.
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You don't think; you ideologize.
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If solar flare reduction caused this temperature drop, how
do we know it wasn't increased solar flare activity that caused PAST
global temperature increases.
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By looking at the historical pattern.
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Indeed, if the sun is flaring less,
you'd think we'd be happy to have a higher temperature to insulate us
and removing that insulation could hurt us in the long run.
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It will destroy numerous ecosystems. We aren't the only species on
earth.
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...assuming
there is ANY connection to temperatures from pollution, considering
that there has been this year and a half long temperature drop without
ANY reduction in worldwide air pollution.
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I suspect that there hasn't, but in fact you haven't provided any data
on "worldwide air pollution", so you are talking out of your
nonexistant hat.
lojbab
Bob LeChevalier - artificial linguist; genealogist
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:51 am Post subject: Re: Official Figures Out Confirming Global Cooling Continues |
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On Jul 17, 10:29 am, Wide Eyed in Wonder <kand...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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On Jul 17, 12:11 pm, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <bfb7fee8-2a81-4929-a788-d36f3305e...@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> writes:
On Jul 17, 11:47=A0am, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <59070c31-041b-43b7-89a8-28ed21e15...@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups=
.com> The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> writes:
Last week, I posted the unofficial figures showing that the year and a
half long global cooling cycle continued in June. =A0The official
figures are out.
Ok. =A0The Global Temperature drop on land and ocean was present but
small in comparison to the century average, a drop of .0127 degrees C
from June of 2007.
ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/anomalies/monthly.land_and_ocean.90S...
However, as I presented last week, it dropped .26 degrees from the 30
year average of more recent times at this site...
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt
Nope. =A0The average in this table for June over the last 30 years was +.=
281
degrees Celsius -- add them up yourself. =A0Therefore, this June dropped =
0.02 degrees
Celsius from that 30-year average.
So, the global temperature dropped, again. =A0In the last year, 11 of
the past 12 months have been lower than the same month in the prior
year. =A0
Terrific. =A0We've cooled down a bit from the sixth and seventh
hottest years on record:
=A0 =A0http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article3045976.e=
ce
Tell me, if your thermostat jams, sending your house up to
100 degrees -- but then you jiggle it a bit, and the temperature
in your house drops to 95, do you declare "problem fixed"?
Let me repeat: over the past 12 months we've dropped back
a bit from the sixth and seventh hottest years ever recorded.
=2E..without ANY reduction in global air pollution....giving rise to
doubt of the truth of Global Warming. Thanks for confirming my
thesis.
Lessee, I do believe this is what?... the third time or the
fourth time I've asked you this: do you really believe
"global warming" means "every year, without fail, will
be hotter than the previous year"?
-- cary
With BBC predicting this cooling period will last 10+ years (see one
of my prior posts on it) and the cooling taking place without any
regard to pollution levels (no correlation), it is irrelevant.
According to this page..
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2008/jun/global.html#temp
The month of June was the 9th or 13th coolest June in the Lower
Troposphere (depending on whether you use UAH or RSS data).
It was the 3rd or 8th coolest June on record in the Mid Troposphere
(UAH or RSS).
Both UAH and RSS agree it was the 5th coolest June on record in the
Stratosphere.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:02 am Post subject: Re: Official Figures Out Confirming Global Cooling Continues |
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"The_Carpathia" <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Last week, I posted the unofficial figures showing that the year and a
half long global cooling cycle continued in June. The official
figures are out.
Ok. The Global Temperature drop on land and ocean was present but
small in comparison to the century average, a drop of .0127 degrees C
from June of 2007.
ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/anomalies/monthly.land_and_ocean.90S.90N.df_1901-2000mean.dat
However, as I presented last week, it dropped .26 degrees from the 30
year average of more recent times at this site...
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt
So, the global temperature dropped, again. In the last year, 11 of
the past 12 months have been lower than the same month in the prior
year. However, that is just talking about the land and sea
temperature drop. Let's talk about the atmosphere, since that is
where the ozone effect is supposed to be happening.
According to this page..
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2008/jun/global.html#temp
The month of June was the 9th or 13th coolest June in the Lower
Troposphere (depending on whether you use UAH or RSS data).
It was the 3rd or 8th coolest June on record in the Mid Troposphere
(UAH or RSS).
Both UAH and RSS agree it was the 5th coolest June on record in the
Stratosphere.
Many blame the recent temperature data to a reduction in solar flares,
as if that justifies Global Warming. Indeed, I think it proves the
reverse. If solar flare reduction caused this temperature drop, how
do we know it wasn't increased solar flare activity that caused PAST
global temperature increases. Indeed, if the sun is flaring less,
you'd think we'd be happy to have a higher temperature to insulate us
and removing that insulation could hurt us in the long run...assuming
there is ANY connection to temperatures from pollution, considering
that there has been this year and a half long temperature drop without
ANY reduction in worldwide air pollution.
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And yet temperatures in Antarctica continue to rise,
Recent unusual events include week long blizzards last winter (one ended the
attempt of the first American to walk to the south pole), and now steady
torrential downpours of freezing rain is killing baby penguins.
For the intelllectually imparied like Kennie, this is the dead of winter in
Antarctiac where normal temperatires reach 40 below. Temperatures on some
paers ofthe continent reach 60 - 80 degrees above normal.
Antarctica is the dryest place on earth, averaging one inch or less of
precipitation a year. More than 2 feet has fallen this year.
And, despite that fact that the southern hemiphere is in the dead of winter
nw tha Antarctic Ice Shelves are breaking up. At a time when the ice shelves
should be expanding te Wilkins ice shelf is hanging by a thread" and
retreating ice off the West Antarctic Peninsula has lead to glacier calving
that is scouring the sea floor.
Larry
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